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    BIG Dog

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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by attius on Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:23 pm

    Does any one else find that very very scary? I am completely amazed and frightened all at the same time.


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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Rave on Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:30 pm

    Creepy and weird. Does Sarah Connor know this thing exists? affraid
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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Zotar on Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:35 am

    The first time I saw that, thoughts of Terminater were racing through my mind!! It is totally freaky.I just cant get over when that guy kicked it on the ice and caught itself and recovered.....blew me away!!
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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Constara on Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:13 am

    I, too, had thoughts of the Terminator movies as I was watching this. Frightening, yet very awesome. Shocked
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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Brakkish on Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:51 am

    That was freaking amazing


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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Andway on Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:00 pm

    O M G .....Computers are taking over........It's the apocalypse people.....Prepare yourselves!!!



    ok..it does look kinda freaky, but pretty cool.


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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Ulfaro on Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:23 pm

    I will post the source video that prompted me to see this one.....it should make you stop and think for a second to say.."Daaaamn!"


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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Breygon on Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:41 pm

    I can see several uses for that thing. Mounted with remote imaging, it can be sent into dangerous areas for search and rescue. Resupply of troops in remote areas, etc

    Put a saddle on it and we have a resurgence of the Cavalry! Charge! Smile
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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Annewing on Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:49 pm

    ok that is just creepy


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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Kravgard on Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:58 pm

    Army Exoskeleton

    From a year or so ago...remember this is only what they released to the public so just imagine what they are keeping under wraps.
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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Kahan on Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:09 pm

    Add both those videos to a recent Navy study and warning:

    Fox News wrote:
    Experts Warn of 'Terminator'-Style Military-Robot Rebellion

    Friday , February 20, 2009

    Autonomous military robots that will fight future wars must be programmed to live by a strict warrior code, or the world risks untold atrocities at their steely hands.

    The stark warning which includes discussion of a "Terminator"-style scenario in which robots turn on their human masters is part of a hefty report funded by and prepared for the U.S. Navy's high-tech and secretive Office of Naval Research.

    The report, the first serious work of its kind on military robot ethics, envisages a fast-approaching era where robots are smart enough to make battlefield decisions that are at present the preserve of humans.

    Eventually, it notes, robots could come to display significant cognitive advantages over Homo sapiens soldiers.

    "There is a common misconception that robots will do only what we have programmed them to do," Patrick Lin, the chief compiler of the report, said. "Unfortunately, such a belief is sorely outdated, harking back to a time when ... programs could be written and understood by a single person."

    The reality, Dr. Lin said, was that modern programs included millions of lines of code and were written by teams of programmers, none of whom knew the entire program.

    Accordingly, no individual could accurately predict how the various portions of large programs would interact without extensive testing in the field an option that may either be unavailable or deliberately sidestepped by the designers of fighting robots.

    and you have "Terminator" looming just over the horizon.

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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Andway on Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:36 am

    Look if you ever think you have seen articles that have the 'inside scoop' on what different Intel sectors are doing...i.e. robots alla terminator style..You're looking at a bunch of BS some person has wrote up to seem very much like a military report. Anything that top secret would never be spilled to civilians. The specifics of those robots wouldn't be spilled to the press. Sorry, too much is at stake to trust anyone without a clearance to sensitive information like that.


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    Re: BIG Dog

    Post by Breygon on Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:03 pm

    Andway wrote:Look if you ever think you have seen articles that have the 'inside scoop' on what different Intel sectors are doing...i.e. robots alla terminator style..You're looking at a bunch of BS some person has wrote up to seem very much like a military report. Anything that top secret would never be spilled to civilians. The specifics of those robots wouldn't be spilled to the press. Sorry, too much is at stake to trust anyone without a clearance to sensitive information like that.

    I concur, Andy. Somebody heard something from somebody's second cousin, twice removed, brother-in-law's sister's acquaintance who knew somebody that knew somebody who cut the lawn at the facility and has all the inside story. From there, you get somebody with a way with words and that knows fear sells almost as well as sex and you have the Terminator story.

    Can it happen? Eventually, yes. Will it happen anytime soon? Highly unlikely in our lifetime. Why? Because the powers that be are afraid to give a machine more independant thought than they allow the average jarhead grunt in the mud. (Which is damn little other than fall on that grenade or take out that machine gun nest with a broken pocket knife.) Why is that? Because if they do it won't be long before somebody realizes that they don't need all that brass at the top. Those in power do not yield same without a struggle.

    Back to the original concept of a personally controlled exoskeleton. Not such a new concept, just that the technology is now getting to the point where it is becoming remotely possible. It also has possiblities for those who have suffered severe spinal damage. (60 Minutes had a show several years ago about a crude setup for a young woman who had had a severe spinal injury and was unable to walk. With the aid of this contraption, she was able to take a few halting steps.)

    The concept of a powered exoskeleton and powered suits/armor has been common grist for the SF world for awhile. A wonderful example is in Robert A. Heinlein's "Starship Troopers", the book not that pathetic excuse for a movie. He goes into detail of the use of negative feedback.

    Jack Haldeman presents something, similar several years, later in "The Forever War" series of novellas.

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